A few months ago, I accidentally came across a photo posted on a forum site. The picture was of a 8 week old kitten being impaled by a woman's high-heel stiletto. I kept seeing the picture in my head weeks afterward. I read some where that in order to get these images to stop, I had to get some sort of closure. What I really wanted to know, was if the makers of the video and the woman had any sort of punishment.
I found out. The woman, had none really. She lived in China where there are no real animal cruelty laws. She got suspended from work for a few weeks. Oh, yeah, and she's a nurse. A nurse who has brutally murdered kittens, rabbits and puppies so some sick fuck could masturbate.
What I really found sickening about this is the fact there are people who like this, and enough of a market of people so it's profitable for them to sell these videos.

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Comment by Hekate Moon on January 5, 2010 at 5:55pm
The sickest thing is I ran into someone who likes this sort of stuff, he sees nothing wrong with it.
Comment by John on January 5, 2010 at 11:37am
The folks that enjoy this kind of thing have some serious hardware problems upstairs. A few crossed wires I'd bet. Hopefully we can figure out more fully how the human brain works over the next few years. Then maybe we can repair problems like this and creating laws to criminalize the twisted results won't be so necessary anymore. Cure the disease instead of treating the symptoms.

As far as getting it out of your mind, try this: When it pops into your head, immediately pinch yourself somewhere where it hurts. After a dozen (hopefully fewer) occurrences, your lower brain will begin to associate the recalling of the image with an immediate negative response and will stop presenting you with it. I know it would seem like the disgust and unpleasant feelings you feel would be enough of a negative stimulus to work, but those emotions are all upper brain constructs that the rest of your mind don't really understand. They do, however, understand pain! Treat your lower brain like sort of a pet and you'll be amazed how well it takes to training. :D
Comment by Rob van Senten on January 5, 2010 at 9:18am
In a perfect world, animals will not be tortured, but unfortunately it can't always be like that. Torturing of animals is an awful thing, but in the search for new drugs humans have killed and tortured quite a few animals. Even today, a lot of what happens in slaughterhouses all around the world could be considered cruel, but it still happens.

Crushing is cruel to animals no doubt, but in my opinion, the (pointless) killing of a kitten for sexual pleasure is not necessarily better or worse then the killing of an animal for food. In the end it all comes down to a choice that a person makes to kill an animal for personal pleasure. (after all, there are alternatives for eating meat, so to eat it is a choice for personal reasons)

I still haven't made my mind up about the whole "animal rights" issue, but I love reading posts like this that allow me to be more involved and knowledgeable about the subject. There are so many questions that I can't wrap my head around, l'll have a lot to think about today....

- Is a meat eater responsible for inhumane (?) treatment of animals in slaughterhouses? - If you use medication which was tested on animals during which the animals suffered, are you better then a person eating meat?
- Would it be worse to kill a kitten by impaling it on high-heel stiletto, or to eat foie-gras*?
- What if the crushing of animals was done with sedated animals in a way as to minimize suffering, would that be better then for instance ritual slaughter where the suffering of the animal is not a priority?
Comment by sacha on January 5, 2010 at 12:52am
Consider joining Humane Atheists
We try our best to keep up with the ballot measures, the laws (or lack of) and the news surrounding animal cruelty.
Comment by sacha on January 5, 2010 at 12:48am
Comment by sacha on January 5, 2010 at 12:45am
It is illegal. You can (and should) get the image removed

In 1999, the United States Congress enacted a statute affecting the legality of crush films which criminalized the creation, sale, and possession of depictions of animal cruelty, though with an exception for "any depiction that has serious religious, political, scientific, educational, journalistic, historical, or artistic value."[7] In 2008, the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit invalidated the ban on the sale and possession of such films (if not otherwise obscene) as a violation of the Constitution's guarantee for freedom of speech.[8] The United States Supreme Court heard an appeal in the case, United States v. Stevens.

Comment by Hekate Moon on January 5, 2010 at 12:45am
It did make me feel better that they are working to make these videos as illegal as child porn, illegal to sell, distribute and own.
Comment by Johnny on January 5, 2010 at 12:38am
The world is what it is. That is one of the hardest parts of being an atheist: no objective moral standard for everyone.

Actions only have as much meaning as YOU assign to them. Punishment, revenge, what somebody deserves or does not deserve... what is important in life is not what everyone else is doing. What is important is based only on what is important to you. You might feel responsible for being helpless. You might feel angry for the woman not getting what you think she deserves. In the end, what is important is not her, it is you.

Pain is only useful when you make something of it; when you use it to make yourself better. Don't feel angry. Feel inspired. The world is full of sick people. The question isn't what are they doing. It is what are you going to do?

Perhaps looking for a way to relieve someone else's suffering can take your mind off it.



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