Sura 9:5 says, "Slay the idolaters wherever you find them

The video is of Allen West talking about Muslims actually following what it says in their book about idolaters.


Here are my remarks.

If I am wrong in anything I say, please reply so I can make my arguments from here on airtight.

  • Michael MooreThere are passages in the Bible that say the exact same thing.
    For example:
    If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. (John 15:6)[16]

    and this one:
    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)[21]

    and this one:
    Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)[20]

    So don't tell me the Christians haven't done the same thing. Look at the Crusades, and the Iraq War, and the Holocaust, and most mass genocides in history. Most were done for religious purposes.

  • Michael MooreAnd Allen West is a poor excuse for a human being. He actually said he gets angry when he sees the co-exist sticker on cars. He says it hurts him because it takes away everything America stands for. You mean, like, freedom of religion? No, I think it tells people that all religions can get along. If he gets so angry about that sticker that means he wants to make America something it should never be. A Christian theocracy. That is not what the Founding Fathers wanted for this country. The Christians are just as bad as the Muslims, the Muslims are just better at it and the Christians are jealous.
  • Michael MooreAnd Allen West wouldn't be where he is now if it weren't for Civil Rights. That's right I said it. The Christians originally didn't want to give African-Americans rights, but it took an anti-religion advocate (Abraham Lincoln) and a Catholic(JFK), as well as MLK (he used Jesus as a lever to get Civil Rights cause he knew he couldn't get it from the fundamentalist Christians) to get the rights that he has now. Why is it that religion allows slavery, but not shrimp and homosexuality?


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Comment by Prog Rock Girl on August 26, 2011 at 7:16pm

Christianity had its balls cut off (somewhat) during the Enlightenment, but in recent years with such things as the Uganda kill-the-gays law, it's doing its best to catch up with Islam (meanwhile Islamic countries are going through revolutions). Both religions have been better or worse at different time periods and both have the potential for extremism.


I see the point in arguing about Christianity being not a hell of a lot better when it's a Christian fundamentalist talking about how fucked up Islam is. Other than that, it usually gets on my nerves that some people have this kneejerk "but Christianity is just as bad" response whenever anyone says anything about Islam. It's like an assumption that everyone is Christian. When atheists say this to each other it comes off as either dwelling obsessively on Christianity or giving Islam a free pass because of Christianity, because atheists already discuss Christianity much more than they do any other religion.



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