Chatting to a believer on facebook:

They had posted a status about their car. Thanks to a canny deal with the insurance this allowed them to pay off a loan outstanding and own their car completely, all the actions of which they attributed to the movement of the divine hand:

"we needed to give God another Acclamation (as He is due every moment of every day) for His next blessing in this saga. After giving us the value of the car in poor condition, He then allowed the Loan's "Gap Insurance" to kick in and, as of the 15th of May, completely pay off our loan. We just received the Title to the Freestar and now completely own it. Our God is simply amazing and His blessings never end!"

I was glad he got the car paid off but asked him what made him think his god was in any way responsible / how did he know this was god working etc?

Here is what he said by way of explanation. See what you make of it becuase I do not understand this mindset. It is craven, abject and warped beyond all reason:

"Everything we see, feel, touch, understand, and remember is defined by the reality He created and owns. Unlike a random deity from ancient lore or theatrical films, he exists outside everything we know ( pink elephant alert! ) and has a specific plan for each of our lives - to draw us closer to Himself, and to make us as close to being like Him as we can during this walk on His earth. Every situation, every event, every waking moment is an opportunity for us to see Him work, choose to follow Him or reject His ways, work for Him, or work against Him. This world is an 60-80 year illusion ( for each of us ) that was meant to help us work together as men, learn to love each other, help each other, care for each other, live in harmony, all while giving God the credit and glory for it's existence ( He created it and runs it ) and for to opportunity we have to seek Him and better ourselves in accordance to his perfect design ( one that, should we follow, will fulfill us like nothing else. Sorta like using a level for exactly what it was made for vs. just using it as a hammer ).

So, when you say "what exactly god had to do with any of what you described," it's quite simple. God is the architect of this Matrix, the author of each of our existences. Far more than just a "matter/energy creator and catalyst," he works in each of our lives to proclaim His glory, whether we want it or not. By this definition, there isn't ANYthing in this world that we can't give God the credit for. The good, the bad ( again, personal interpretation ), the mundane, and the exciting - He's allow/planned it all to allow our time here in this world to glorify Him the most.

And, how do I know it was "God?" Well, again, everything is God. When you read this, it will be by divine appointment, just as the fact we are friends on Facebook. Also, even if God had completely destroyed my cars, without the option of replacement, so that my wife and I were without transportation, or if he had destroyed our home so that we are living on the streets, the result would still be the same. I would still give Him the glory because He causes well-being & calamity ( Isaiah 45:7 ), yet all is given to me to allow me to let go of bitterness, reject pride, love instead of hate, and turn myself outwards to reject any destructive ego-centric behaviors. The Biblical example of Job sums it up well - Job 1:21b - "The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away. Blessed be the name of the LORD."

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Comment by James Yount on May 30, 2012 at 6:51pm
Man doesn't cause disease: Blame man's sin for disease
Man develops cure for disease: Give god the credit for cure
Comment by Richard Healy on May 30, 2012 at 5:30pm
Probably not but we might make a mouse that cures cancer. Watch this space.
Comment by Tony Carroll on May 30, 2012 at 5:14pm

Dude, if you do make a pig that flies, I want one! Really, really want one!

Comment by Richard Healy on May 30, 2012 at 4:33pm
The Lab Tech's Lament.

Another Day Done.
All Target Met.
All customers satisfied.
All work completed
free from error and on time.

All pigs fed
And ready to fly....
Comment by Richard Healy on May 30, 2012 at 4:31pm
I don't work in a hospital with actual people - I work in a research lab engineering a better mouse, which in practise means killing a whole bunch of mice then mucking about with their DNA some pink stuff in bottles and tiny needles to build the murine equivalent of The Hulk.
Comment by Tony Carroll on May 30, 2012 at 4:20pm

You are welcome, sir. I have had many a lab tech come to the desk over the years and say you better go check on Mr./Mrs. so and so, something is wrong. Invariably, they were right. So, I want to thank everyone who works at the hospitals for their vigilence. You make my job so much better, and the patients lives safer. And imagine, you do it without holy intervention. Gee, what next? Pigs going to start flying? That will surely call for a shoutout to jesus! Lol.:)

Comment by Richard Healy on May 30, 2012 at 4:12pm
I like the shout out for lab techs 'cos I am one ^^
Comment by Tony Carroll on May 30, 2012 at 4:08pm

The one that really chaps my ass, as I see on at least a weekly basis, is when they "praise god/jesus" when it was us ( nurses, doctors, cardiac techs, lab techs, x-ray tech, etc.), who recognized a problem happening to some member of their family, intervened, and halted/stopped the process, and they could then recover. We had nothing to do with it. The ones in this mindset never thank us, just god/jesus. Get real!

Comment by Richard Healy on May 30, 2012 at 3:35pm

For SB:


Comment by Tammy S on May 27, 2012 at 12:11pm

He's allow/planned it all to allow our time here in this world to glorify Him the most.

So let me get this straight then, your god is a vain god?



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