The Unholy Trinity Tour: Part 2 of 3- Seth Andrews - Doubt

Seth Andrews' presentation on May 3, 2014 in Albuquerque, NM

Questions that lead to doubt arise as one reads and hears the stories from the bible. I doubt it is healthy or morally sound to take the flesh and blood of christ in communion. I doubt the story of Adam and Eve and the incest implied in the population of the Earth with Homo sapiens. I doubt enslavement of the Hebrew people in Egypt and the walk back to the land that they claim god gave them. I doubt there was a virgin birth even as I doubt the virgin births of ApisKrishnaDevaki ,VaasudevaBuddha, Kabir, Lao-TszeHorus, or Ra

"Throughout history there have been many religions with accounts of virgin birth. These religions predate christianity by thousands of years. Some of these religions include Hinduism, Buddhism, ancient Greeks and ancient Egyptians. Also various religions in places like China and Taiwan."

~ David Virgin Birth


“in every age and in almost every religion of the Asiatic world, there seems uniformly to have flourished an immemorial tradition that one god had from all eternity begotten another god”

~ Thomas Maurice in Indian Antiquities

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter"

~ Thomas Jefferson, 1823

The Unholy Trinity Tour: Part 2 of 3- Seth Andrews

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Comment by John Aultman on August 10, 2014 at 2:23pm

Thanks Joan really enjoyed this.  I listen to Matt Dillahunty and the other hosts regularly on the Atheist Experience.

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 8, 2014 at 7:17pm

i debated whether to list all three videos and had a hunch that seeing one would lead to seeing all three. Yes, I agree, they are well done, both in presentation of their topics and the sound was of good quality. It is material such as these three men produced that will ring the bells of many to be free of religious dogma and dominionism. They didn't mince words, or pussyfoot around. They used clear language with outstanding evidence. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 8, 2014 at 3:05pm

I've listened to all three speaker, and the time went by rapidly.  Very good talks, and the audio/video is well made, something you would expect from Seth Andrews.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 8, 2014 at 1:57pm

Great free e-book on systematic lies about Jefferson from

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on August 8, 2014 at 11:45am

I'm in the middle of quite a disturbing book titled Religious Right - The Greatest Threat to Democracy by A. F. Alexander. It lives up to its title, detailing how the dominionists have stealthily injected these destructive and hateful theological beliefs into our political processes over the past several decades. The book is worth everyone's attention, but to get a glimpse of their vision of the future, all you have to do is review the Texas Republican party platform. I'm adding just a couple of quotes from the book:

"Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ -- to have dominion in civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and godliness . . . World conquest. That's what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. But it is dominion we are after. Not just a voice. It is dominion we are after. Not just influence. It is dominioin we are after. World conquest. That's what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. We must win the world with the power of the Gospel. And we must never settle for anything less.

Thus, Christian politics has as its primary intent the conquest of the land -- of men, families, institutions, bureaucracies, courts and governments for the Kingdom of Christ" [Quoting George Grant and Gary North, The Changing of the Guard: Biblical Principals for Political Action, Dominion Press, 1987.

"As the vice-regents of God, we are to bring His truth and His well to bear on every sphere of our world and our society. We are to exercise godly dominion and influence over our neighborhoods, our schools, our government, our literature and arts, our sports arenas, our entertainment media, or scientific endeavors -- in short, over every aspect and institution of human society" [Bob Moser quoting D. James Kennedy, "The Crusaders," Rolling Stone, April 7, 2005.]

Better than Islamic fundamentalist terrorists??? Not by much. The book describes how their network of organizations.raises three-quarters of a Billion dollars annually, (mostly tax-exempt, or course) and has had access to the highest levels of government, especially since the Reagan presidency. Needless to say, they care far more about displaying their ten commandments than about heeding them in their crusade for ascendancy.

Comment by Michael Penn on August 8, 2014 at 11:13am

Thanks Joan for the Unholy Trinity Tour link. I watched every bit of it and like all 3 of those guys.

Comment by Loren Miller on August 8, 2014 at 9:36am

Seth Andrews does the atheist community a tremendous service, both in participating in such gatherings and giving the wonderful talks he does, but also in making them available on YouTube through his Thinking Atheist page there.

I have also seen Matt Dillahunty's and AronRa's talks from the Unholy Trinity Tour, and they are equally worthy of your attention.  I recommend them highly.

Comment by Michael Penn on August 8, 2014 at 9:25am

I like your post and I think I agree with Thomas Jefferson. What he said here can be viewed plainly. I always find it strange that theists want to label the man as a christian. It's harder for them to get away with it in the informational age of computers.

The mindset of the christian is that it is OK to tell a lie if you told it for god. Martin Luther believed that one strongly.



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