This was a very unruly comment that was posted on yahoo and Idk why it got to me, but it did.. How do you feel about this?

god is real....
and you know it...
if not who created you...
who gave you your body and mind..
your family....
your life...
your fellings...
its just wrong if you just ask that there is no god 
god is real
he gave you LIFE..
and just as easy he can TAKE IT AWAY...
he is the one who cares about you
only he can hear you...

just go pray for forgivness

I left it as is. No changing of typos.. and for anyone interested, this is the link to the website I seen it on..

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Comment by Austin Miller on February 19, 2013 at 7:29pm

I think his epistemology is different than mine because of his reasoning.  I think it likely that English is not his first language, or he his not very competent with it.  I do not think he is more intelligent.  I do not feel superior to him.

Comment by Luara on February 19, 2013 at 10:25am


Having grown up in this kind of threatening environment - not using a religious context, though - I perceive this kind of message as hostility, a wish for someone else's harm, that they mask by displacing it onto "God". 

Hell being a very extreme example of that (!) - sadistic depictions of one's enemies being tortured for eternity. 

Very common for people to displace something they want to express that's risky somehow, onto someone or something else.  Very often people will say their spouse is the reason they can't visit or whatever ... Here, it's God, very convenient because nobody is going to boom from the sky, "HEY that isn't what I said!!!"  :) 

Comment by Loren Miller on February 19, 2013 at 9:59am

Very true, Luara.  It seems as though their beliefs are dependent on threats: of death, of hell, of the disapproval of their fellows.  It's the whole carrot-and-stick routine which presumes a supernatural arbitrator who dishes it all out.

It also puts them in a presumed position of power.  The problem happens when we fail to acknowledge that power, which pulls their plug and leaves them out in the wind to twist.

Comment by Luara on February 19, 2013 at 9:41am

There's a death threat in it, maybe that's why it bothered you.

Comment by Stephen Honeywell on February 19, 2013 at 9:35am

God is the one who cares about me? What about my wife, kids, family, and friends? They care about me enough to actually go out of their way to help me, not threaten me with punishment if I don't dedicate my life to them. 

Anyone else notice how in screeds like this, truth is asserted by being "just" true and "just" this and "just" that? Just stop, please.

Comment by shavante williams on February 19, 2013 at 9:20am

Thanks for the feedback guys. Glad i'm not the only one who sees what's so wrong about this statement and others like it.

Comment by Tammy S on February 19, 2013 at 8:37am

“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.” - Seneca

Comment by Dave Godfrey on February 19, 2013 at 7:59am

Why do these people feel the need to CAPITALISE CERTAIN WORDS almost at RANDOM? Don't waste your time with such people, there are far more intelligent people to debate with.

Comment by SteveInCO on February 19, 2013 at 7:48am

Indeed the favorite hunting ground of evangelicals is people who got the brainwashing, who therefore "deep down know its true" but don't practice it; their goal is simply to prod them into "realizing" they are in "peril" without forming a relationship with doG.  Since these folks bought into the premise in childhood, it's fairly easy.

It's a little harder to "get" someone who was never taught it in the first place but it can be sometimes be done IF you can hit them with better-sounding arguments for doG than they've ever heard against doG.  (Warning to atheist parents--you probably should arm your kids with such arguments--definitely don't just assert to them that there is no doG or that there is no evidence for doG--or they could be easy prey in later life.)

It's harder to "convert" a total non-theist but it has been done, and some people specialize in it.

Comment by Loren Miller on February 19, 2013 at 6:39am


I've seen this kind of crap on discussion boards with semi-frequency.  It's pretty obviously an appeal both to emotion and to old programming, the kind the speaker is reasonably sure (justifiably) that his or her audience has been exposed to.  The goal is to reboot that old programming, refresh it and the fear that accompanied it almost without exception.  That person wants their audience to abandon reason and logic and come back to unsubstantiated warm fuzzies and the welcoming, suffocating arms of the church.

Maybe it's not very generous or kind or whatever of me, but my own knee-jerk reaction is a hard-nosed bitch-slap of a response, reminding the speaker that their school of thought and mine have no intersection set, something like the "prove it" comment I made earlier.  There are plenty of options, though from where I sit, they should be kept terse and short.

People like that are a drain we can do well without.



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