To teach fables, myths, miracles and superstitions as fact is an outrageous thing

“Fables should be taught as fables, myths as myths, and miracles as poetic fancies. To teach superstitions as truths is a most terrible thing.”

~ Hypatia  (370 - 415 AD)

"it would be in the interests of those who believe in such nonsense as organised religion or creationism to accept the fact that religious books were written by men as a control system."

“Just think for one second,

* if ‘God’ or a ‘messenger of God’ had written that particular religious book/bible, how come the writings only occur within a very limited period in human history?

* Also, consider the fact, that a human writing on a piece of paper, or a few pieces of paper, is not the word of ‘God’.

* If they were really written by a universal God or entity, the books would not be limited to some pre-medieval costume drama but would encompass all universality, history, the future and science.

* Language is something created by man, not an all-seeing, all encompassing entity.

* God would presumably be universal and timeless as well as all-knowing, as is the universe, therefore these man-written books and scriptures, are just that, man-written linguistically created nonsense used to control men and women thousands of years ago.

*Why would ‘God’ write anything anyway?

* One must consider the fact that, even now, there are religious zealots and ordinary people still entrenched in a control belief system that is so far removed from reality that it borders on madness.

* There is no rational or scientific way that organised religions can have a modicum of truth or factual reality because of the very reason that these books are entombed in the time that they were written.

*These books should therefore simply be viewed as limited parables and historical fiction, as well as a lesson in how millions of people can be so easily controlled.”

Scientists Prove That All Religious Books Are Man-Made Nonsense

~ the Institute of Historical Research

~ Doctor Julius Sanreso

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Comment by Michael Penn on February 1, 2015 at 10:24am

Dog, I'm sharing your views here exactly. The article makes great common sense but it doesn't "prove" anything. IHR doesn't mention Dr. Julius Sanreso at all, but I'm finding reference to this article going as far back as 2012. It's all over the Internet but we learn nothing more about it or the good doctor.

I believe what the article says and everything that Joan has taken out of it for this blog. It just makes sense, but the bottom line is that you can neither prove or disprove a deity. They remain so very elusive and want to keep us all guessing if they exist at all.

Kind of like the Abdominal Snowman.  :)

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on February 1, 2015 at 5:46am

Although I agree with much of what is stated, reading the article gave me a cold feeling that it is contrived.

There doesn't appear to be any ligintimacy to the language of the article, it appears like something any anti-theist would push, and it appears contrived.

There is nothing even a little bit like any ligitimate study being undertaken.

Nor is it cited by any reputable journals.

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on February 1, 2015 at 5:38am

I have doubts that Dr. Julius Sanreso exists, and the IHR appears to have nothing from him.

I wonder if the article is a carrot to atheists, created as a kind of prank.

"Look at all those atheists jumping on a false bandwagon," just as Creationists jumped on the false bandwagon concerning the fake finding of a piece of the ark, set up by James Randi and his artist colleague.

Demonstrating that atheists also adhere to anything that appeals to their confirmation bias.

Well, many of us are dubious of all claims, even claims against religion or supporting atheism by so called scientists.

BTW: I noted that some references cite Julius as a medical doctor and medical doctor does not qualify as a historian, without historical creds, like a degree in ancient history or anthropology.

Comment by Michael Penn on January 31, 2015 at 4:31pm

Much about this woman is like that of Hatshepsut of Egypt from the 1400's BC. She was a pharoah but also a woman. Much about her has been changed or hidden. Why would this be? It's a man's world moreso then than now.

Comment by jay H on January 31, 2015 at 3:01pm

Alas much of what is 'known' about Hypatia (though she was a real person and mathematician) is on shaky ground. Quotes like the 'fables' one first appear in Elbert Hubbard's Little Journeys to the Homes of Great Teachers. Later these quotes were adopted by Lynn Olsen Women in Mathematics.

Alexandria  at the time was in a power struggle between the Bishop and the Roman Governor. Periodic street executions were carried out (not unlike organized crime today), and Hypatia, already aligned with the governor happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Carl Sagan was a great astronomer, and story teller, but probably not such a good historian. His tale, however is the one most people know.

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 30, 2015 at 9:36pm

Felaine, I read a lot of different sources on Hypatia, and there is no clear evidence of her birth date. 

"Some historians believe that Hypatia was born in the year 370 AD. On the other hand, others argue that she was an older woman (around 60) at the time of her death, thus making her birth in the year 355 AD."

Hypatia

Grinning Cat, my real target is the onlooker who timidly stands behind bigots.

 

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 30, 2015 at 9:18pm

Joan, I'll heartily echo Loren's "Brava!" The response might not do anything for Ricky, but it might do some good for a few onlookers.

Comment by sk8eycat on January 30, 2015 at 9:16pm

If Hypatia was born in 370, and murdered in 415, then she was only 45 years old when the fanatics got her.. 

Ricky sounds like ALL the bigots who send crank mail to FFRF...another redneck idiot.

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 30, 2015 at 8:30pm

Thanks, Loren. It felt good to respond to idiocy. Nothing changes, but I feel better. 

Comment by Loren Miller on January 30, 2015 at 8:24pm

Brava, Joan!

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