Using Theology's Favourite Form of Logic (Deductive) to Destroy Theology. All Theological Arguments Fail From Having an Invalid Primary Premise, "God".

Every theologian I've ever encountered and even those debating atheists in public like William Lane Craig, Ken Ham, Lee Strobel and Ravi Zacharias, all base their arguments on Deductive Reasoning and the existence of their God.

Though Logically, using their very own Deductive Logic, all their arguments that assert the existence of a God, such as "Without God there can be no morality", fail because they have automatically added a Premise to their argument that has not been Validated. 

To the Theologian; the without God, man could not be moral looks like this.

Premise 1:  Man  was born sinful and so lacks morality.

Premise 2:  Morality  was given to man by God.

Conclusion:  Therefore without God, man could not not have morality.

Logically This is a Valid Conclusion, so the Theologian can consider it as a Win in an argument.

Problem with this is that there is a Missing Premise that the Theologian is Asserting, namely the Existence of God. 

So the Theologian is ignoring the missing Premise and the Syllogism actually looks like the following:

Premise 0: or Universal Theological Premise:  God Exists!

Premise 1:  Man  was born sinful and so lacks morality.

Premise 2:  Morality  was given to man by God.

Conclusion:  Therefore without God, man could not not have morality.

Logically, Premise 0 (Existence) Needs to be validated before the Conclusion can be Valid or True.

Since nobody has Validated the Existence of God, Premise 0 is Not Valid and the Conclusion is always Invalid or False!

Therefore all Arguments for God by Theologians suffer from an Invalid Primary Premise and thus are all False by default. 

See what your local Theologians think about this!   

Let me know their responses.   :-D~

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Comment by Loren Miller on March 20, 2018 at 6:58am

@Compelledunbeliever – Steve Shives has been dismantling apologists' texts on YouTube since 2012, when he first tackled Lee Strobel's The Case for Christ.  Virtually without exception, his and my observation persists that such books are far less aimed at atheists or skeptics than they are at the faithful, being more tasked to reassuring their faith than genuinely challenging the opposition.  They consistently put up straw men, cherry-pick facts, and ignore any data which is inconsistent with their desired result.  In short, they are badly dishonest.

And indeed, you have it right that the only argument they can't employ is the one which would be instantly convincing: the argument from evidence.  They've built their house upon the sand, and even their carpenter-turned-rabbi knew the problems entailed in that brand of poor judgment.  Yet they persist in their irrationality, I suspect because of their emotional and financial investment in it.

At some point, I have to expect that this house of cards will collapse.  The only question is when.

Comment by Compelledunbeliever on March 20, 2018 at 1:06am

 I have been on a quest to find just one reasonable apologetic argument that stumps me. Ironically the only reason apologetics exist is due to the fact that there is no evidence for any god. So they (humans) must defend their gods with manipulative mind games to "trick" people  into believing something that should be obvious(god's existence) I actually hate apologetics as a subject yet I am constantly drawn to apologetics as that is all they really have to throw at us with the exception of throwing pseudoscience out there. Interestingly the tactics are exactly the same twist the facts with flawed reasoning.

You are absolutely correct the premise is always invalid. of course, this applies to all of their "science" arguments also. 

Comment by Michael Penn on March 7, 2018 at 6:48am

Comment by Dyslexic's DOG on February 24, 2018 at 8:45pm

Precisely Loren ;-) 

Comment by Loren Miller on February 24, 2018 at 8:10pm

To which my response will continue the same until the message sinks in:

if you can't show it, you don't know it.
-- Aron Ra



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