What does it mean to have faith?
For me, when I was a believer, faith is accepting something as true without ever looking for evidence.

Once I looked for evidence and found none, I changed my mind.

Now, instead of faith, I would say that I have:
1. reasonable expectations of the way things are;
2. that are based on evidence, and;
3. reliable repetition of results (ie: trust that has been earned rather than given without thought);
4. all of which is granted tentatively (as it may prove to be incorrect in the future).

For me, the last dot point is the most important.

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Comment by tom sarbeck on September 20, 2013 at 12:37am

Derod, the faith you have is the most important faith to have.

Religion keeps people, especially children, from finding it and encourages passivity. I consider religion abusive.

Comment by Loren Miller on September 17, 2013 at 10:31pm

Oh, dear, Pat ... it's clear you haven't kept track with the current obesity stats!  As the centuries have passed, angels have GAINED WEIGHT ... a WHOLE LOT of weight ... and as a result, you just can't fit that many pudgy seraphim on a needle any more!

In the immortal words of Lucius Fox: "Didn't you get the memo?"

Comment by Pat on September 17, 2013 at 12:39pm

Only 52 and 3/4? Those bastard priests in grade school told me it was 10,000! Lying SOBs. I should have known their claims were exaggerated even back then.

Comment by Loren Miller on September 17, 2013 at 12:28pm

One of my favorites as well, Pat, especially since the black man who starts out is saying a lot of stuff which he can in no way corroborate what he says regarding aborted fetuses ("aborted children"?!?  Come ON!!!).

Which brings yet another point: how blithely people like him throw out baseless tidbits like that and No One Questions It! Oh, sure, aborted babies go to heaven and 52 and 3/4 angels can dance on the head of a pin and god is all that and a bag of chips, too.


Comment by Pat on September 17, 2013 at 12:13pm

Still one of my favorites.

Comment by Loren Miller on September 17, 2013 at 10:24am

Damn, Glen!  You angry at god or sumptin?!?  [chuckle!]

Comment by Frankie Dapper on September 17, 2013 at 10:13am

It is worse than the aforementioned. It is devotion to an aesthetic construct inculcated through duress promising torment to the unbeliever and rewards to the adherent, the drivel produced by powerful political institutions and serving to corrupt the foundation of civilization.

Comment by Michael Penn on September 17, 2013 at 7:20am

Faith is blind belief and total acceptance of blind belief.

Comment by tom sarbeck on September 17, 2013 at 2:27am

In a differential equations class about fifty years ago, the professor said that even math is founded on faith.

I understood him then as saying he had faith in his ability to do math.

I now have limited faith in my ability to do the next math problem.

That professor also said "Flies have been known to do derivations." He had just explained dot notation.

Comment by Loren Miller on September 16, 2013 at 8:52pm

Faith, insofar as I'm concerned, is belief in or subscription to a concept, proposal, doctrine or dogma which has no demonstrable corroboration or mechanism for verification.  It is belief on someone else's say so, with no form of objective substantiation.  There's is a phrase out there which is quite apropos to such belief: 

The opposite of Skeptical is Gullible.

'Nuff said.



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