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Decoding Jesus: Separating man from myth (CNN - John Blake)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Mar 16, 2017. 6 Replies

Timothy Freke was flipping through an old academic book when he came across a religious image that some would call obscene. It was a drawing of a third-century amulet depicting a naked man nailed to…Continue

Tags: Richard Carrier, Robert Price, mythicist, Jesus

World of Batsh!t - #7: Gravity (CoolHardLogic)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Jun 10, 2016. 3 Replies

Oh, dear ... CoolHardLogic has found another one!  We now have "B S Detector," a flat-earther holding forth on why he's right and everyone else is wrong.  This particular scientific "genius" seems to…Continue

Tags: Einstein, gravity, Dunning-Kruger, CoolHardLogic

World of Batshit - #6: Sphereless (CoolHardLogic)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Feb 15, 2016. 2 Replies

The flying mouse feces spreaders are BACK ... and CoolHardLogic has GOT 'em!  This time he's got some wingnut named Jeranism, who seems to think that there are no spheroidal objects in outer space,…Continue

Tags: Tycho Brahe, parallax, sphere, batshit, Dunning-Kruger

David Silverman – Fighting God & Firebrand Atheism

Started this discussion. Last reply by Loren Miller Sep 7, 2016. 58 Replies

I love David Silverman. Why? Because he has the brass cojones to call a spade a spade, he doesn't soften his approach and he doesn't back down.  Recently, in Zurich, Switzerland, David gave a talk on…Continue

Tags: firebrand atheism, Fighting God, David Silverman

 

Faith is NO Reason ... Truer words were never spoken.

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I'm a semi-retired electrical engineer who has a rather eclectic background, never mind a few miles on the odometer. I suppose I was an "apatheist" for quite a while - largely indifferent to the whole issue of gods - but after 9/11 and the more blatant appearance of evangelicals and Dominionists on the scene, my atheism has finally come to the fore.

Other interests include high-end stereo and home theater (and with that, CD and DVD collecting), BMWs and general car enthusiasm, single-malt whisky and biking.

I flatter myself that I know my way around Atheist Nexus at least reasonably well (I've been here since November of 2009), so if you need a hand with something, please don't hesitate to give a shout.

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Loren Miller commented on Joan Denoo's group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"Actually, Joseph, it may not be all that bad.  We had an AT&T guy here (Cleveland suburb)  maybe a month or so ago, talking about a fiber feed directly into the house.  If Ma Bell is making noise about that, my guess is that Time…"
1 hour ago
Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"If I were not an atheist, I would believe in a God who would choose to save people on the basis of the totality of their lives and not the pattern of their words. I think he would prefer an honest and righteous atheist to a TV preacher whose every…"
16 hours ago
Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Loren, I like your metaphor of sailing into the wind and "Learning and harnessing skills is how we improve ourselves and the lives of others, and it is something which religion knows NOTHING about.""
21 hours ago
Loren Miller replied to Russell Pangborn's discussion Atheist Reasoning on Gun Control in the U.S
"That day is coming, Michael.  Be patient, but know that it IS coming."
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"The sailor does not pray for wind, he learns to sail. -- Gustaf LindborgAnd when he learns to tack, he can even sail almost INTO the wind, as contradictory as that may sound.Prayer is useless.  Learning and harnessing skills is how we improve…"
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"LSD was and is interesting, but I think Pollan goes a bit hyperbolic with his statement there."
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Bertold Brautigan commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"LSD truly was an acid, dissolving almost everything with which it came into contact, beginning with the hierarchies of the mind (the superego, ego and unconscious) and going on from there to society’s various structures of authority and then…"
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Loren Miller commented on moJoe's group Atheist News
"I've heard rumors from FFRF about attempting to create "Better News Clubs" to counter the after-hours crap which the GNCs have been pulling.  Thus far, not a lot of substance."
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Loren Miller commented on Joan Denoo's group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"Precisely, Joseph (and thanks for the vote of confidence).  I can't help noticing that Tom still doesn't want to engage those who actually KNOW something about the topic, as I have repeatedly challenged him to.  Apparently,…"
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Loren Miller commented on Joan Denoo's group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"Honestly, Tom, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT if you want to tell me about it.  Unless you are willing to throw it down with NASA and the cosmologists who are most expert in the Big Bang, you have absolutely nothing to say to me that I'm…"
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Hitch does have a way with words!"
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"So this is where all the vapid talk about the "soul" of the universe is actually headed. Once the hard-won principles of reason and science have been discredited, the world will not pass into the hands of credulous herbivores who keep…"
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Loren Miller replied to Joan Denoo's discussion The Oneida Perfectionists in the group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"PRE-FUCKING-CISELY!!!"
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Loren Miller commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Bertold, AA is yet another in a series of Christian farces.  Its success rate is ludicrous by comparison with alternative, results-based techniques currently in use and available.  I know this because I have a friend who is directly…"
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Bertold Brautigan commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Few members of AA realize that the whole idea of a spiritual awakening leading one to surrender to a "higher power"--a cornerstone of Alcoholics Anonymous--can be traced to a psychedelic drug trip. ~Michael Pollan"
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Loren Miller commented on Joan Denoo's group Politics, Economics, and Religion
"Tom, your accusations regarding the Big Bang versus the electric universe have grown tiresome to the point where I have to speak out about it. You're basically saying that the likes of Lawrence Krauss, Sean Carroll, and the late Stephen…"
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Tom, I do not mean any disrespect as I ask others for their reasoning. There must be something that I am not getting and I would like to know. "
Thursday
Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Loren, and anyone who has an interest in the topic: I am not asking to be critical or judgmental, however, Tom has been espousing the electricity theory and those who respond make negative statements about it. I read the material Tom…"
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Joan Denoo commented on Loren Miller's group Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful
"Loren, I agree: re·li·gion, noun the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. "ideas about the relationship between science and religion" synonyms: faith, belief,…"
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Loren Miller commented on Ruth Anthony-Gardner's group Hang With Friends
"Your footwork is much appreciated, Joan!  I'm glad to hear that Carl is okay."
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At 2:04pm on May 8, 2018, OrionWolf said…

Hello Loren! I believe the issue is fixed. Thank you again for the help!

At 1:48pm on May 8, 2018, OrionWolf said…

Thank you for taking the tie to write to me Loren and for letting me know of such error on my blog. I am currently working to fix this issue. It is strange but I am contacting Google to see if the can help with the issue.

Greetings and hope all is well!

At 3:24am on May 7, 2018, Marianne Seals-Vahrenholt said…

Hello everyone!!!

I am still very happy to be here!! :)

Lots of Greetings from abroad!! ♥

At 12:18am on April 24, 2018, Prasenjit Konar said…

Namaste...Thank you so much!

At 12:05pm on April 23, 2018, Jim Gardner said…

Thanks..Glad I found this site..

At 1:46pm on April 8, 2018, Vine said…
Thanks for the welcome, Loren. I agree that there's nothing wrong with fantasy for fun. Unfortunately, the line between fantasy and delusion seems very thin, and people often cross that line without realizing it. One example is the admirer who becomes a stalker. Another is the "casual Christian" (which I once was, having been raised that way) who becomes an evangelical.
At 12:48pm on February 18, 2018, shane clark said…

Thanks for the welcome Loren,Greetings to all from New Zealand, it's currently 7.45 am Monday morning....so if you want to know the future???? just ask me :-).  oh and by the way....jesus is coming....its pissing down with rain here at the moment....see infalible proof, anyone got a towel?

 i look forward to learning more of Dan Barker and Jerry De Witt.

 

all the best people, keep up the good work

best regards shane

At 6:13pm on January 9, 2018, Chris said…

Great quote Loren.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
-- Upton Sinclair

At 5:36am on January 9, 2018, Marianne Seals-Vahrenholt said…

New friend Loren!

Keep coming back here. Learning, that many people share my frame of mind. Thx a bunch for creating this site.

Everyone have a great 2018!!

Warm greeting from Germany

At 7:53pm on January 4, 2018, Dyslexic's DOG said…

Hi Loren,

Thanks for asking to be my friend.

I may stick around a little longer on A/N this time.

Last time I got overwhelmed by attacking Trump supporters since he started his run for presidency, but now I've settled down a bit, but still have fun stirring them up. :-D   

Thanks M8!  

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So, What If…?

Posted on May 4, 2018 at 9:00am 3 Comments

It’s finally happened.  The smoking gun has been discovered in unique, utterly new evidence, the data has been verified, all the tests confirm it … THERE IS A GOD.  Now what?  For me, beyond a shrug and a bit of bemusement, little or no change.



Oh, but aren’t you excited or thrilled?  You see, we were right all along!  Wassamatta, eating too much crow?  Those sour grapes turning in your stomach?



Nope, don’t like grapes and crow isn’t on my…

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Krauss, Silverman, and Feet of Clay

Posted on April 16, 2018 at 9:15am 21 Comments

Too many of my heroes have feet of clay!

-- Joan Denoo



It was late February, 2018 when I first learned about issues regarding Lawrence Krauss and his inappropriate behavior toward women.  Then in the first week of March, I got an email from American Atheists, indicating that David Silverman was being suspended from the presidency of that organization, pending an investigation.  One week later, I learned that he has been removed from that position.  In both cases, the…

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Dear Senator Portman: Regarding Gun Control...

Posted on February 18, 2018 at 12:00pm 13 Comments

Don't ask why it's taken so long for me to write. Stipulated that I've been involved in "clicktivist" petitions about gun control and perhaps written my representatives here and there in the wake of past mass shootings. Somehow, this last incident at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High just GOT to me. That and learning that Ohio Republican Senator Rob Portman has an "A" rating with the National Rifle Association pretty well broke my camel's back.



In any case, the following just went out…

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Meditations on "Jonah"

Posted on February 13, 2018 at 9:00am 1 Comment

They say Jonah, he was swallowed by a whale,

But I say, there's no truth to that tale.

I know Jonah, he was swallowed by a song.


-- Paul Simon, "Jonah"



I was going to save that quote for an entry in the Quotations group, but it and the music that accompanies it really captured me this morning ... or “swallowed” me, as Paul put it.



I really admire that – being so consumed with a skill, talent, or desire that it utterly occupies your life, as…

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