Steve Harvey is black. I should assume that he's going to steal my television because black people have no moral boundaries. Oh wait, that was highly offensive. If I said that on national television, I would be demonized and criticized to no end. However, by replacing the word "black" with the word "atheist," I would receive a round of applause. Fuck you Harvey…and stay away from my goddamned television.

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Comment by GodMockingBitch on February 23, 2011 at 8:29pm
I can't stand that guy. Where were his morals when he was having an affair on his wife with his current wife?
Comment by Doubting Thomas on February 20, 2011 at 2:17am
@Pascahl Nneji

I’m black, and I'm an atheist too. I think you're really missing the point here, and taking things where they need not go. I did not find Odin's post offensive; nor did it make me wonder if he would have said the same thing if Harvey was a member of another ethnic group. I left racial lines and the sensitivity associated with it behind with my religion and other nonproductive focuses. It has nothing to do with race, so why did you jump the racial lines? Odin was simply giving an example of what‘s not acceptable regardless of the type of discrimination. You got the point and displayed the reaction expected.
Harvey is an ass.

Paschal Nneji said:
“Just wondered if he make the same comment if Harvey was white.”

Probably not, and neither would I. Whites stealing televisions and being associated with crime isn’t a prevalent negative stereotype for whites in America, and would not have drove home any points about stereotypes and discrimination. If Harvey was white I would have used a negative stereotype associated with whites, and I assume Odin would have had the gumption to do the same to prove his point.
Relax. Leave behind the "SharpJack" (what you get when Sharpton and Jackson search for racial undertones to get on TV so people still think they serve a purpose)
Comment by Rob van Senten on February 15, 2011 at 3:25pm

@Pascahl Nneji,


Mr. Harvey was not racist, that's true, it was discriminatory yet not the specific subset based upon race. What the OP did was to replace discriminatory category "religion" with that of "race" to show that the comments of mr. Harvey are highly discriminatory and that the same kind of comments based upon another form of discrimination, namely race would provoke outrage. Which was demonstrated by your anger to the comments of the OP.

Comment by Rob van Senten on February 15, 2011 at 11:14am

@Paschal Nneji,


I would think that Odin Zeus Gaffer clearly pointed out that the blatant racism in his post was meant to show that the comments of mr. Harvey are as horrible as any other form of discrimination.


He is bothered more by Harvey's race that his comments.


How do you know this to be true, are you so enlightened that you can look into other people's hearts?

Comment by Prog Rock Girl on February 14, 2011 at 9:00pm

The point is that stereotyping based on one characteristic would be unacceptable, but stereotyping based on atheism is. Of course it wouldn't be any different if Harvey was white and atheists have also been pretty critical of Ray Comfort and other white anti-atheists.

I don't really have an attitude of "you're a minority too, you should know better" though because bickering and marginalizing is so common among so many demographics (I'm not just talking about racial).

Comment by Christopher Baughman on February 14, 2011 at 5:09pm

I think that Odin Zeus Gaffer's point is that black people have historically suffered from tremendous persecution in the United States.  Thus they shouldn't contribute to bigotry on another group given they should have a unique perspective regarding oppression.  Sort of like finding Jewish settlers in Israel spray painting "Gas the Arabs."


Given that I lean toward misanthropy though I'm not surprised people don't learn from the past.  In fact I've come to expect it.  

Comment by Rob van Senten on February 14, 2011 at 11:52am

Oh my, oh my, in response to a discriminatory stereotype on TV, Odin Zeus Gaffer uses the same discriminatory rhetoric to proof how absurd (and discriminatory) mr. Harvey's statements are and he gets the race card dealt to him.


It kind of proofs his point, doesn't it? 

Comment by thomas smith on February 14, 2011 at 10:40am
I agree that a persons skin color should not have any bearing; but the reality in america is that because there are so  few black faces in national media  each of these voices has a wildly disproportionate effect



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