Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

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Quotations – Momentous, Memorable, Meaningful

A place to share the words of others (or your own!) which have been impactful in your life, whether they're serious, poignant, humorous, or just something worth noting.

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I have been a quote collector and quote monger for at least as long as I've been an atheist and probably a good deal longer.  My admiration for those who enjoy reputations as wordsmiths extends even further back, whether we're talking about John F. Kennedy's assertion: "We choose to go to the moon," George Santayana's warning: "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it," or James T. Kirk's deft observation when faced with the dauntingly huge First Federation ship: "Not chess, Mr. Spock ... poker!"

The realm of atheist activism has had its own share of verbal craftsmen and women, from Madalyn Murray O'Hair's: "An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church." to Aron Ra's succinct: "If you can't show it, you don't know it."

Regardless of the topic, these are words which are capable of fomenting inspiration, reflection, and sometimes even action.  They can educate and illuminate the human condition and allow us to better know ourselves.  That said, here is an open invitation to share those words which have been particularly meaningful or impactful or timely or just special to you for one reason or another.

Let's share those words and have fun!

One bit of clerical business: please hold your quotes in the comment area below to 20 lines or 200 words.  One comment should not so dominate the Home page of this group that no other comment is visible.  That way, the briefer comments and quotes of all participants are more likely to be seen, read, and appreciated.  If you have a long quote or commentary, create a post, please.

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The Founding Myth: A Striking Quote

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Grinning Cat Nov 4. 4 Replies

Over the last couple of weeks, I have been reading Andrew L. Seidel’s excellent book, The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism is UN-AMERICAN. Barely four chapters in, Seidel has already…Continue

Tags: rights, The Founding Myth, Seidel, Andrew

"Mr. President ... I Don't Work For You"

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Loren Miller Aug 31. 13 Replies

There has been a major shot across President Donald Trump's bow and it came, believe it or not, from Fox News.  Specifically, it came from Fox reporter and commentator Neil Cavuto, in response to a…Continue

Tags: Neil Cavuto, Fox News, Donald Trump

On authority, obedience, and "liberal" vs. "conservative" values

Started by Grinning Cat. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 1. 1 Reply

Last week Loren shared this quotation in the group comments:But here steps in Satan, the eternal rebel, the first freethinker and the emancipator of worlds. He makes man ashamed of his bestial…Continue

Tags: politics, purity, loyalty, liberal, conservative

On Emotion, Vulnerability, and a Flawed God

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Craigart14 Jun 1. 6 Replies

On 31 May, 2018, Joan Denoo posted a most excellent quote from David Hume: That quote was well deserving of a response, which is the following:The most preposterous notion that H. sapiens has ever…Continue

Tags: flawed, vulnerable, emotion, god

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Comment by Loren Miller on October 4, 2017 at 5:01am

“…I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State…
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to the Danbury Baptist

This is, to my mind, among the most important statements regarding church and state which is NOT found in the Constitution, as it clearly states Jefferson's intention regarding the First Amendment and its purpose.  While I would expect fundamentalists to ignore it in large portion, I still wish this were taught in Civics classes and were more widely known.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 3, 2017 at 5:39pm

To paraphrase Russell: 

"The law of causality, I believe, like much that passes muster among philosophers, is a relic of a bygone age, surviving, like" religion, "only because it is erroneously supposed to do no harm." 

~Bertrand Russell (1872 –1970)

note - I changed one word, "monarchy" with "religion." 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 3, 2017 at 5:36pm

"All philosophers, of every school, imagine that causation is one of the fundamental axioms or postulates of science, yet, oddly enough, in advanced sciences such as gravitational astronomy, the word “cause” never occurs. … The law of causality, I believe, like much that passes muster among philosophers, is a relic of a bygone age, surviving, like the monarchy, only because it is erroneously supposed to do no harm. "

~Bertrand Russell (1872 –1970)

You can accuse Russell of many things, but being mealy-mouthed is not one of them."

~ Sean Carroll, Cause and Effect: A Cornerstone of Science or a Myth? https://www.quantumdiaries.org/2012/06/08/cause-and-effect/

Comment by Loren Miller on October 3, 2017 at 7:20am

There are people who have elevated a THING in importance over ourselves and our lives.  These people so value their guns that they want to prioritize their right to own such weapons over the right of others to live their lives without the fear of them.
-- me

The absurdity of that whole situation continues to floor me. The combination of an obsession about a single amendment to the Constitution, combined with their own apparent distrust of their fellow human makes me wonder how these people manage to live without constant paranoia.  All I know is that I have NO desire to live that way.

Comment by Loren Miller on October 2, 2017 at 2:01pm

That's a neat one, Spud, and as a troubleshooter who can point to any number of problems solved over the years, I LIKE IT.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 2, 2017 at 1:53pm

The satisfactions of manifesting oneself concretely in the world through manual competence have been known to make a man quiet and easy. They seem to relieve him of the felt need to offer chattering interpretations of himself to vindicate his worth. He can simply point: the building stands, the car now runs, the lights are on. Boasting is what a boy does, who has no real effect in the world. But craftsmanship must reckon with the infallible judgment of reality, where one's failures or shortcomings cannot be interpreted away. (Emphasis added) From Shop Class as Soulcraft by Matthew Crawford.

Comment by Loren Miller on October 2, 2017 at 6:39am

I've searched my conscience, and I can't for the life of me find any justification for this, and I simply cannot accept that there are on every story two equal and logical sides to an argument.
-- Edward R. Murrow

I have liked the above quote practically from the first time I heard it.  Considering the "fair and balanced" crap we get from Faux Noise (which is anything BUT fair or balanced) and the insistence from some quarters that both sides in some arguments deserve to be heard, sometimes there is just one side with the facts and the other which simply has NONE.

Comment by John Loftis on October 1, 2017 at 9:49pm

“We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.” 
― Richard DawkinsThe God Delusion

One of my all time favs

Comment by Gary S on October 1, 2017 at 5:33pm

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts.

- Bertrand Russell

Comment by Terry Groff on October 1, 2017 at 5:27pm

Well Loren, as I always say, I'd rather be pissed off than pissed on. :-)

 

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